A Shotgun would be awfully infective, dangerous, and stupid. Seeing as Zombies need headshots, they will miss often unless your five feet away from them. And if your five feet away from them... well you should be spending more time making peace with your god at that point.

Edit: I would put it in anyway for the lulz of seeing someone get one and brag about how they cannot be killed, then whine as they relize that they suck as you beat away at the zombies with far more effective and superior weaponry.

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A shotgun wouldn't really be ineffective.

You really should use video-game law for guns - in real life, shotguns are actually a lot more accurate than they seem, and against a zombie, would actually be pretty useful. Some of the shots you can use scatter, which would pretty much guarantee a hit because of the sheer amount of pellets, and single shells could rip right though a zombie (Though single shells would probably be slightly crazy, because in Zombie Survival Guide logic, you don't need to destroy the entire brain). If you arugu that shotguns can be too loud, all guns are quite loud, and you can get silencers for shotguns (though james bond silencers don't exist for any gun in real life, they only really dampen and make it hard to tell where the noise is coming from).

You wouldn't need to be too close, and you could even kill multiple zombies if at the right distance so that the pellets spread, but don't loose too much momentum. Even at a range that the pellet lost a lot of momentum, the pellet could then actually insert into thier head, not have enough velocity to exit the other side, and ricochet inside, destroying the entire brain.

Before you try to teach someone like an idiot and mocking with a "Hurr guy thinkz hes invincible, he gots lulz by superior weapons durr", get some knowledge about the subject.

I think you need to understand that need to penetrate the Brain. Alone, Shotgun bullets are weak, and could never get inside even a human skull, let alone a zombie one. And the spread makes this even worse. The chance that even ONE of those bullets will hit the head is a million to one, and if you try holding at an angle that its at head hight, the recoil will send you FLYING. You need to hold a shot gun and waist hight, and that just destroies the chance of a headshot. Also, even IF you manage to get by the Recoil, the near impossible chance of hitting, and make sure that more then one bullet hits the Brain, you would only be killing ONE zombie at a time, when in Mid-game there would be damn near a thousand zombies around. Shotguns would suck, HARD.

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Shotgun bullets are weak?

Seriously, a 12 gauge could blow your head off. And it depends on the shotgun. You don't hold a sawn off at your waist height, do you?

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I said a Single Shotgun Bullet out of the spray is Weak. READ MORE.

Also, I realy dought they will put in a saw-off shotgun in, and even in they did, the recoil would still be insane, and you need to be really close for it to work, which goes back to one of my previous points,

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This conversation is stupid. Leon is a troll or plain wrong and either way i don't think it will go anywhere. Everyone knows how great a weapon a shotgun would be and this gamemode would be pretty awesome.

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I do not appericate being called a Troll, or being called wrong without you even trying to say anything about my points. If anything, that technically makes you the Troll, no?

I am not saying a shotgun should not be in the gamemode, but that if it was, it would be incredibly ineffective. And I am pretty sure I make I good point in the manner as well. Discussion is not the same as trolling.

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from what i've read(all posts in this thread XD) , i don't consider leon's posts as trolling. he stated his opinion and causless and chlo stated theirs, the only thing he said that could be ofensive is the "Stupid" towards the implementation of the shotgun and when he told chlo to read more ._.
I for once believe that a shotgun is not as inacurate as leon thinks, ofcourse that at mid - long range the shotgun becomes pretty much useless. I goggled a bit about a shotgun's range and came along this in wikepidea (:P)

Constriction (micrometres)| Constriction(inches)| American Name |percentage of shot in a 76 cm (30 in) circle cat 37 m (40 yd)| Total spread at 37 m (cm) | Total spread at 40 yds(in)| Effective range (m)
0----------------------------------- .000--------------------Cylinder---------------------------------------40-------------------------------------------------150----------------------------------59 ----------------------18
127 ----------------------------- .005 ------------------- Skeet----------------------------------------- 45 ----------------------------------------------- 132 --------------------------------52 ----------------------21
254 ------------------------------ .010 ---------------- Improved Cylinder----------------------------- 50 ----------------------------------------------- 124 -------------------------------- 49----------------------23
381 ------------------------------ .015------------------ Light Modified -------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------- - -------------------- -
508 ------------------------------ .020 -------------------- Modified ------------------------------------ 60 --------------------------------------------- 117 -------------------------------- 46 -------------------- 32
635 ------------------------------ .025 -------------- Improved Modified ---------------------------- - --------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------- - -------------------- -
762 ------------------------------ .030 ------------------- Light Full--------------------------------------- - --------------------------------------------- 109 ------------------------------- 43 ------------------- -
889 ------------------------------ .035 -------------------- Full ----------------------------------------- 70 ---------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------- - -------------------- 37

Link here

These are from weapons from after the WWII to today and you can see that they really aren't that bad. Idk about the recoil though. So i think that if we had zombie mode, the shotgun wouldn't be that useless, if you still don't penetrate a bullet in their brain, you can at least blast their bodies to the point of stop beeing a threat, it's dead mead so it shouldn't be hard

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But at that point they would crawl after you without their legs. The only way I think a shotgun would be useful is for the stopping power. Dispite everything I have said so far, I think we all agree that a shotgun would be able to stop anything in their tracks, or even blow them back.

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I'm sorry but are you serious? Fine if you want we can go into detail about why you are wrong. Firstly you seem to think that birdshot is the only kind of shotgun ammo. Secondly you seem for some reason to believe shotguns are not fired from the shoulder which is like believing motorcycles are only driven on one wheel.

Lets go through this one by one and see if you have a single fact correct:



This is just wrong for so many reasons. I think you are saying that most of the pellets would miss which is not true and i am not going to go into massive detail other than saying shotguns are widely used for hunting large animals (and not only using a slug round) and are also used a lot by the military and police which means they are able to take down people and people sized animals.

There is a point to be said about them being less effective against zombies due to the head thing but the entire point of using it against zombies is zombies have a tendency to get close (not 5 feet) at which point a rifle is hard to aim duding the running and screaming.



Zombies have human skulls... and this is the bird shot mistake again. Shells for use against large animals have like 6 big balls which could easily penetrate a skull while also having a tighter spacing meaning you have not one but many massive balls.



I cannot understand this at all because as i said above shotguns are fired from the shoulder and a big reason is BECAUSE of the recoil. The sending you flying part just makes me think troll.



Sigh. Shotguns as opposed to what? i mean if you're talking about a fully automatic weapon then you'd need to be spraying to beat a shotgun kill time (pump action or faster) and you'd be inaccurate as hell. So in order to get headshots you either need a slower fire rate or so many you tear everything apart. If you're talking about the first then the shotgun does well and for the second no one would take the shotgun over that.


There's more idiocy/ignorance here but I feel like you have already won by forcing me to waste all this time so i don't look like a dick.

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