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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:39 am 
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First off, I really like to play the game. I tend to play it a lot on my freetime. However, being the story maker I am, I am really dissapointed at how dull the two factions, Greens and Greys, are. I would like to change this. I say we begin to make such a backstory for this sides, make them more special and unique, and give them a reason to murder each other ravanously. This isn't something I want to enforce upon the game, otherwise I would have put this in the Suggestions area. No, I feel that this should be something for people like me who like to learn lore and such. This would also give the creator of RwR a bit of a break, in the case he ever wanted to put lore or the idea for a Campain in his long term goals, he already has a fleshed out history created by the fans for him to take from. But, before we go to work, I have just a few guidelines I would like to put down.
1. No "Good Guys" or "Bad Guys"
Black and White morals are kinda Bland, if you ask me. Both sides need to be at least somewhat equal on the "Malevolence" and "Benevolence" Chart.

2. Be a little Mature
Come on, were all (Mostly) Adults here, right? Surely, you can suggest backrounds that aren't "lol thy cum form penuis lanud" or that the people fighting are really Kerbels from Kerth. Jokes are appreciated, but too many are pushing it.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:17 am 
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Green should be renamed left wing. They should wear suits.
Grey should be renamed right wing. They should also wear suits.
Bullets will become metaphors for ideas.
Body count will be a metaphor for voters.

On a serious note i think this thread is a good idea, i'm just not so good with stories :D

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:38 pm 
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Obviously the Greys seem more based off of a dictatorship of some kind, which in itself isn't based off as "bad". While the Greens look more like they come from some kind of much more liberal country.
The reason for this war would be conflict of ideologies.
Considering we got this (if you all agree), we should make some kind of characters, the dictator of Grey shouldn't be instantly the evil bad guy who wants to conquer the world, nor should the leader of the Greens be the great hero that will lead his country to victory.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:30 pm 
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I was thinking that the Greens were somewhat similar to the USA, in more ways then Americans realize. They are also quite imperialistic, and they seem great and good in their own eyes, while the people it tries to help think far differently. The Greys could have been using this as propoganda for the war.

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Considering we got this (if you all agree), we should make some kind of characters, the dictator of Grey shouldn't be instantly the evil bad guy who wants to conquer the world, nor should the leader of the Greens be the great hero that will lead his country to victory.

I think this is a great idea.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:37 pm 
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Leon_The_Killer wrote:
I was thinking that the Greens were somewhat similar to the USA, in more ways then Americans realize. They are also quite imperialistic, and they seem great and good in their own eyes, while the people it tries to help think far differently. The Greys could have been using this as propoganda for the war.

Cosme IV wrote:
Considering we got this (if you all agree), we should make some kind of characters, the dictator of Grey shouldn't be instantly the evil bad guy who wants to conquer the world, nor should the leader of the Greens be the great hero that will lead his country to victory.

I think this is a great idea.
Cosme IV wrote:
Obviously the Greys seem more based off of a dictatorship of some kind, which in itself isn't based off as "bad". While the Greens look more like they come from some kind of much more liberal country.
The reason for this war would be conflict of ideologies.
Considering we got this (if you all agree), we should make some kind of characters, the dictator of Grey shouldn't be instantly the evil bad guy who wants to conquer the world, nor should the leader of the Greens be the great hero that will lead his country to victory.


Wow, two very different viewpoints here, I think the agreed idea is that one side is authoritarian, and one side is more decentralized.

I'm going to flip a coin right now to decide which is which, because that seems fair. Heads green is authoritarian, tails grey is:

And the flip...

Tails!

Grey is our authoritarians. So, who's the aggressor?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:13 am 
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Waldo wrote:
Leon_The_Killer wrote:
I was thinking that the Greens were somewhat similar to the USA, in more ways then Americans realize. They are also quite imperialistic, and they seem great and good in their own eyes, while the people it tries to help think far differently. The Greys could have been using this as propoganda for the war.

Cosme IV wrote:
Considering we got this (if you all agree), we should make some kind of characters, the dictator of Grey shouldn't be instantly the evil bad guy who wants to conquer the world, nor should the leader of the Greens be the great hero that will lead his country to victory.

I think this is a great idea.
Cosme IV wrote:
Obviously the Greys seem more based off of a dictatorship of some kind, which in itself isn't based off as "bad". While the Greens look more like they come from some kind of much more liberal country.
The reason for this war would be conflict of ideologies.
Considering we got this (if you all agree), we should make some kind of characters, the dictator of Grey shouldn't be instantly the evil bad guy who wants to conquer the world, nor should the leader of the Greens be the great hero that will lead his country to victory.


Wow, two very different viewpoints here, I think the agreed idea is that one side is authoritarian, and one side is more decentralized.

I'm going to flip a coin right now to decide which is which, because that seems fair. Heads green is authoritarian, tails grey is:

And the flip...

Tails!

Grey is our authoritarians. So, who's the aggressor?


Maybe border skirmishes that started turning into something bigger?
Obviously the people of both countries are hateful of each other due to propaganda in each country, there may have been various accidents in the borders involving civilians and troops.
I'd say that the Grey Dictator, seeing this neverending conflict, found it "better" for his country to simply finish this off in the battleground with honour or for the Fatherland. While the Greens called the Grey Dictator a psychopath who desired nothing but bloodshed in both countries instead of looking for peaceful solutions, further enraging the people of both countries.

I'd also say to not give names and keep them to titles, like "General of the Greens" "Grey Dictator" "Green President"


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:42 am 
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Perhaps the Greens did something that in Grey culture was worse then Genocide, however, the Greys didn't explain this very well. The Greens took this sudden increase in hostilities as a signal that they were going to invade, and did a "Preemptive Strike". One thing lead to another, and they ended up at war, maybe?

On the topic of names, I think that they should have "Offical" names, but the two factions began to be called "Greens and Greys" for some reason. Kinda like in the English Civil war, "War of the Roses", the two rulling houses at war were not called their offical names, but "Reds and Whites".

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:01 am 
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How about: There was a power plant at the border.
A third party blew it up and the greens accused the greys of it, and the greys accused the greens.
No agreement was made.
Bloodshed ensued.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:14 am 
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Leon_The_Killer wrote:
Perhaps the Greens did something that in Grey culture was worse then Genocide, however, the Greys didn't explain this very well. The Greens took this sudden increase in hostilities as a signal that they were going to invade, and did a "Preemptive Strike". One thing lead to another, and they ended up at war, maybe?

On the topic of names, I think that they should have "Offical" names, but the two factions began to be called "Greens and Greys" for some reason. Kinda like in the English Civil war, "War of the Roses", the two rulling houses at war were not called their offical names, but "Reds and Whites".


Actually, Civil war could be a good idea.

Grey's are loyal to the party in control, because they believe that the structure provided is necessary to keep the peace.
Greens are rebelling because they believe that the greys are too oppressive.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:25 am 
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Cultural differences can be a good reason to start a war
but another good reason could be the land's resources.
How about the place where they're fighting was a country that had nothing to do with the war to start with(lets call them Blues) for now). They just had a huge land rich with minerals of all kinds, fertile soil, good ports and other good things that a country might want in a piece of land.
The Blues were a peaceful people but one day the Greens decided that they should have this country because they needed the resources to be able to sustain their growing population, while the Greys, their old rivals(these 2 could be having some sorth of "Cold War" at the time), were facing the same problem and thought that if they were able to beat the Greens hard enough to weaken them on their actual "motherland" they could take the Blue and Green countrys at the same time, killing 2 birds with one stone.
The Blues were caught by surprise here and were forced to retreat to the north of their country to later counter-attack them(possible implementation of a Blue faction in the game? :D)

What do you think of this? Could this give an interesting story? :)

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