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 Post subject: Losing XP when dying
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:09 pm 
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Started playing into new profile and noticed that I lose alot of XP every time when I die. Is this normal and if it's good, why so many? :?
I am very surprised, because I have read some of the Jack's answers in the steam and I am almost sure he said that rank does not decrease after death..... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Losing XP when dying
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:56 pm 
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just tried it out to make sure we didnt have a wrong factor to slip in somewhere unexpected. You lose the amount of XP like always. There's nothing wrong from what I can tell.


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 Post subject: Re: Losing XP when dying
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 5:03 pm 
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OK, Jack, thanks! But what determines how much XP you will lose when die?
Also why rank goes down?

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 Post subject: Re: Losing XP when dying
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:58 pm 
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from rewards.xml:

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<reward class="self_killed"     base="-0.0010"      bonus="0.0"        type="xp" />


This means you lose 10 XP on death (quickmatch/classic for example). As the XP gain is around 30% in invasion, you'll also lose 30% of that, e.g. 2-3 XP. You might call it much, I don't :D


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 Post subject: Re: Losing XP when dying
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:18 am 
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Hmm..... I know what I saw so a while ago tried to reproduce the same but now I lose as expected. So I was wondering whether this is related in some way to the number of killed enemies(like 50-60 to me) before dying.

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 Post subject: Re: Losing XP when dying
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:21 am 
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and this is why i don't like playing this game online. I have put in around 4ish hrs online and have a total of 170ish xp (highest I had was around 220). playing as a private is no damn fun. there should be no xp penalty for the first few levels. especially as I'm a one hit death, but the AI seems to take 3-4 hits to die.

Single player is fun but if I wanted to play with myself I'd watch some porn.

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 Post subject: Re: Losing XP when dying
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:49 pm 
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Both kill and die chance are the same for both us and ai. This seems to be a common complaint of new players. Some would just call You a noob and tell you to L2P and call it a day, but i'll bite.

Basically, all guns don't do specified damage like in most games - instead they have a percentage chance to kill. So whether You die or not is up to chance, and so sometimes - epecially when You lag a bit - it might seem annoyingly unfair. It really is not, if a gun has a 50% chance to kill with each bullet it's the same for them and us. That aside, You just have to stick to few basic rules when playing this game :

- survival above all. If You see a bleeding teammate but theres a gigantic fight raging on, nobody will blame You if You let him die without getting Yourself pointlessly killed while trying to help out in the open and under fire. There are exceptions to this rule of course, for example vehicle survival > soldier survival, in other words if You have to die to shield a tank then it's worth it.
- cover is Your bestest friend ever. Only people that are fine in the open are snipers staying far from combat, beyond enemy engagement range.
- shooting skill will never matter more than being smart. Knowing how to utilize terrain, using height advantage, knowing when it's better to disengage and run or not engage at all is far more important than being a top shot. Always consider Your situation and act accordingly, shooting (and therefore making noise and bringing attention to Yourself) is not always the best idea.
- learn vehicles. A lot of players think themselves masters of the battle when in a tank and charge the enemy. This is a mistake, regardless of the vehicle. Bots carry a LOT of grenades and rockets, and vehicles are not that tough. Always stay with the players and ai infantry, preferably just behind them and use Your superior firepower to support and protect them or even to just keep enemy cowering behind cover.
- ALWAYS carry a medpack. Stick it in Your backpack if you want to carry deployable cover or rockets, but always have it. There is a ton of them dropping from enemies and allies, and being a medic is, aside from being good teamwork tactic, very profitable in terms of xp/rp. Just remember rule #1. Wait for the bleeding person to get into a position where You can heal them without getting Yourself and him/her killed.
- talk to other players. A lot of people ignore the chat. On the other hand there are a lot of nice players who will help You out in game with advice, sticking together, buying a deployable mg/mortar/whatever that You don't have unlocked yet or can't afford.
- never underestimate targets of opportunity. Things like enemy comms trucks, water towers, mortar ammo, fuel tanks and so on. They're pretty easy to destroy and net You a bag of xp/rp. Same goes for destroying enemy vehicles. Just remember to look who is actually driving the vehicle before You shoot at it, players often steal enemy vehicles, and enemy vehicle WILL NOT change its colour to reflect this. Always hover over driver/gunner seat to make sure who is actually inside.

And lastly, if Your ping is high - distance is Your friend. Up close You really can't beat ai if Your latency is 150 and higher, before your hit info reaches the server the bot will kill You. The further You are the lesser effect ping has.

I'm not trying to patronize You, i'm just trying to point out the most common mistakes new playes make. With a bit of practice, some skill and a bit of luck You can easily clear 750-1000xp per hour.


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 Post subject: Re: Losing XP when dying
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 4:03 pm 
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Thrillseeker has good advice. Another thing you can do is watch players who have really high k/d ratios or kills per minute to see what they do. Make sure they don't have a silenced weapon. If they don't, try following them around and copying what they do.

DIO is a pretty good example to follow because he's online a lot. He's really good about setting up and using cover, and about giving pickups to noobs who are around. If you watch and copy him, and avoid the risky stuff he does (knife fighting), you should be able to get a 20:1 kill:death ratio even before you get enough XP to buy vests.


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 Post subject: Re: Losing XP when dying
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:18 pm 
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thejoker954 wrote:
and this is why i don't like playing this game online. I have put in around 4ish hrs online and have a total of 170ish xp (highest I had was around 220). playing as a private is no damn fun.


Hm it took me 80 minutes to get 1000 XP. But 4h and only like 200XP is tough stuff. You can still grind some XP against bots when noone is on the server. If you are even struggling against the bots then you might possibly need some more playing experience. Try to make some combos, this also gives you some bonus XP.
Bt anyway, we lowered the XP requirement for a lot of equipment to 0XP so that you should at least not have many disadvantages as private compared to some higher ranked.


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